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oo - check out net issue #18 (11102006)

  • I wish you would redress Zitterbewegung and your previous references a few years back; I feel a lot has happened since your first commitment to making entries. Or do you feel that this is addressed in other fields, and just siteing topics is sufficient to cover the concepts your were injecting?

I've been trying independently to develop a working theory for what I've only recently come to discover are areas already addressed in one form or another; This has been both exciting and dismaying but since I was conceptually involved in finding the boundaries of our understanding; it was fruitful in knowing I found those boundaries. Today I landed at Zitterbewegung, which comforted me with its connection to ZPE as that was my original focus (I now have to work back to my original focus 'Bell's Theorem'). It seems that philosophically everything comes down to determinism, local or not at all. I find myself a little frustrated at adhering to QM principles and maintaining a local reality perspective only to find stochastic Hamiltonian processes taking place at the zero point, which although expected, turns out to be, apparently (possibly), the only method to resolve QM and a local reality. (Although I question internally whether the zero point is both local, and non-local simultaneously :-/)

I am hampered by my lack of formal education in Mathematics, though I've reached some quasi state of understanding as it relates to a person learning a new language and find that one can in principle understand much of what is being said, while still unable to speak the language. Still I found your discussions under 'Talk' in Zitterbewegung reasonable, and saw in your nemesis a resolve to block process or adhere to some less controversial perspective. On the other hand, I've head so much that Wikipedia is definitively not a forum for discussion; yet provides avenues for presenting controversial perspective, but only when they gain some credibility. I think we've reached that point, the term Zitterbewegung is a great perspective providing a simple understanding behind mental observation of a wildly unobservable phenomena.

I would appreciate any information you could provide to point me toward greater understanding. After some fashion I was hoping (expecting?) ZPE or what I refer to as 1/2 Planck to take on a simpler mathematical construct, only to discover that it is basically a Fermion type state capable of containing huge symmetrical phase or spin state quantities of what appears to be stochastic energy. A difficult concept once we remove length, and possibly time. While I still think it can be deterministic as least with some non-relativistic Einsteinian locality (or possibly within that restriction), I digress. Thanks ahead of time for any consideration. Cyberchip (talk) 11:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)